Daniel / Dan
Wienholt
* 25.10.1822 Bayonne, France
+ 28.02.1865 Cleveland, Australia 		Helene Henrietta
Mutzenbecher
* 05.08.1828 Hamburg
+ 20.01.1906 Oxford, UK

Magdelena Ellen ("Madge")
Wienholt

* 29.07.1859 Lewisham, Kent
+ 12.1951 Poole, Dorset, UK


Kinder mit: Felix Ghislain, Baron de Bethune (* 20.08.1855 Bruges + 06.08.1922 Woluwe-St.-Lambert) (oo 18.03.1893 San Remo):

Herbert Felix ("Bertie")
de Bethune
* 23.06.1897
+ 1981 Hampshire, UK
oo Marjorie Mainwaring 		? ?

Quellen:
- Ihr Eintrag bei Geni: "Magdelena Ellen Wienholt Also Known As: "Aunt Madge" Birthdate: July 29, 1859 Birthplace: Lewisham, Kent Death: Died 1951 in Poole, Dorset, England Immediate Family: Daughter of Daniel Wienholt and Helene Henrietta Wienholt Wife of Baron Felix Ghislain de Bethune Mother of Herbert Felix de Bethune Sister of Mary Helene Henrietta Stark; John Daniel Wienholt and Agnes Elise Henrietta Merrick ... About Magdelena Ellen Wienholt The 1861 census records Magdalena Ellen, the baby of the family at a year old, living with her parents and three siblings at 30 Westbourne Park Terrace, Paddington, London (which became Porchester houses in 1912). The record states she was born in Lewisham, Kent. Less than four years later the family fortunes had changed irreversibly when her father died in Australia. Was known as "Madge" by her nephew Robert Gordon Stark and family. Birth place and marriage place from Dutch Wikipedia article on her husband. This source stated she died in Brussels in 1949. This must be incorrect, as the England & Wales Death Index for the final quarter of 1951 states that Magdalena E. de Bethune died aged 92 in Poole, Dorset. A passenger list for 1925 shows she took a round trip on board the 'Hildebrand' from Liverpool, aged 65, arriving back in Liverpool from Manaos, Brazil, on 26 June. She gave her country of residence as Belgium and her address as 152 Avenue Lambeau, Woluwe, Brussels."
- Geni ZUM GATTEN: "Baron Felix Ghislain de Bethune Birthdate: August 20, 1855 Birthplace: Bruges Death: Died August 6, 1922 in St.-Lambert Immediate Family: Husband of Magdelena Ellen Wienholt Father of Herbert Felix de Bethune ... About Baron Felix Ghislain de Bethune [From Dutch Wikipedia article] De Bethune was the fourth of nine children in the family of the architect and art historian Jean Bethune (1821-1894) and Emilie d'Outryve Ydewalle. He is remembered in the 1935 memoirs of his wife's nephew, R G W Stark, who recalled Felix visiting them at their home in Oxford: "Uncle F�lix (Baron de B�thune) & Aunt Madge used to stay fairly often. My earliest impressions of Uncle Felix were a large kindly man who spoke little but with a distinctly foreign accent and smoked interminable cigars. He was a grandson of a former prime minister of Belgium, turned to Protestantism and became an ardent writer and reformer in its cause. He wrote �Le Luxe� of which I have a copy somewhere. He was well-known as a lecturer in France too. An excessively patient, unselfish man, as he well had need to be. Completely spoilt his wife Magdalena, though perhaps I oughtn�t to mention it! "In his younger days, after his �apostasy� he said his brothers (and father?) were very angry with him. They even tried to have him certified as a lunatic and were actually driving him to an asylum to have him locked up when he guessed their intention & managed to escape. "During the war he was imprisoned by the Germans as one of the �notables� in Brussels, but managed to escape to England. German officers were quartered on their house and they lost a good deal. Most of the damage they suffered however was later found to be due to the Bruxellors themselves. I fear that Uncle Felix lost faith a good deal not only in his fellow countrymen whom he admitted sorrowfully to be somewhat low scum, but also in religion. Though I remember he used to say to Mother that the difference between people like themselves and ordinary Christians was: �They believe, but we know!� "He was killed by an accident whilst riding his bicycle in Brussels shortly after the war. They adopted a boy �Bertie� (H.F. de B�thune) in about 1901/2 �of good Scotch family�, but we were never told more. It had to be kept a strict secret by all of us children and it was so. We have never mentioned the matter to him to this day. The poor chap went in ignorance of his true parentage till after he married (Marjorie Mainwaring) in about 1927 (?), and it created something of an uproar in her family when it was discovered that he was not the Baron de B�thune after all.""
- Ihre Seite bei Weule: " Name Magdalene Helene WIENHOLT [2] [3] [4] Events Type Date Place Sources birth 20. July 1859 Lewisham, Kent, England search of this place [6] [7] [8] baptism 17. September 1859 Saint Margaret,Lee,Kent,England search of this place [5] residence 1861 Paddington, Middlesex, England search of this place [9] marriage 1893 San Remo, Italien search of this place death December 1951 Poole, Dorset, England search of this place Parents Daniel WIENHOLT Henriette HELENE MUTZENBECHER Spouses and Children Marriage Spouse Children 1893 San Remo, Italien Felix Baron DE BETHUNE 1897 Herbert Felix Baron DE BETHUNE ♂ Sources 1 2 1861 England Census, Class: RG 9; Piece: 6; Folio: 77; Page: 44; GSU roll: 542555 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.Ursprüngliche Daten - Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1861. Von den National Arc 3 England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 4 England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Author: FreeBMD Publication: Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.Ursprüngliche Daten - General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of 5 England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 6 1861 England Census, Class: RG 9; Piece: 6; Folio: 77; Page: 44; GSU roll: 542555 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.Ursprüngliche Daten - Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1861. Von den National Arc 7 England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 8 England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Author: FreeBMD Publication: Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.Ursprüngliche Daten - General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of 9 1861 England Census, Class: RG 9; Piece: 6; Folio: 77; Page: 44; GSU roll: 542555 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.Ursprüngliche Daten - Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1861. Von den National Arc Database Title Weule-Woile-Datenbank 2022 Description Uploaded 2022-02-13 20:53:23.0 Submitter user's avatar Reinhard Weule "


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